Go Back   Chicago Velocity > Cars & Bikes > General Car Discussion

Ford's cheaping out on Focus design catching up with them...

This is a discussion on Ford's cheaping out on Focus design catching up with them... within the General Car Discussion forum part of the Cars & Bikes category; Source: Business Week Magazine In May, an otherwise dismal month for Detroit, Ford Motor Co. (F ) sold more than ...



Welcome on Chicagovelocity.com! Make sure to register - it's free and very quick! You have to register before you can post and participate in our discussions with 4500 other registered members. User profiles and some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your free account you will be able to customize many options, you will have the full access to new posts, local events, news and last but not least will see no ads. We would love to see you around in our community!
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes

 
Old 06-10-2006, 10:31 AM   #1
kein Dummkopf
 
flip240's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Chicagoland
Posts: 10,848
Send a message via AIM to flip240
Ford's cheaping out on Focus design catching up with them...

Source: Business Week Magazine

In May, an otherwise dismal month for Detroit, Ford Motor Co. (F ) sold more than 20,000 Focus subcompacts, the fuel sipper's best showing in nine months. That's great news, right? Not really. Ford lost an estimated $4,000 to $5,000 on each Focus it sold.

What irony. Just when the subcompact market is heating up, Ford can't make money on a car acclaimed for its taut handling and decent 26/32-mpg fuel economy. The auto maker's Focus problem (pun intended) is an object lesson in how Ford continues to be hamstrung by high labor costs and tired product design. By choosing not to remake the Focus for the U.S. when it had the chance, Ford misread the road ahead. Now the auto maker is working overtime to bolster the Focus, albeit not until 2008, with a face-lift plus three new small cars.

When it hit the U.S. in 2000, the Focus was widely applauded. Car & Driver magazine named Ford's zippy subcompact to its influential "Ten Best" list four years running. But by 2003 the Focus had suffered more than 12 recalls. And when Ford redesigned it in 2004, the new Focus appeared only in Europe, where Dearborn felt it could fetch a decent price. Meanwhile, the U.S. version received just cosmetic upgrades.

Critics lavished praise on the European Focus, while noting snidely that Ford clearly thought Americans were too dumb to realize they were getting an old car. "From a viral marketing standpoint, that kills a brand and means you are forever selling on price," says marketing consultant Dennis Keene.

Making matters worse, the Focus represented Ford's sole bet on the small-car segment. Big mistake. Now that the auto maker is adding to its car lineup with the new Fusion sedan and forthcoming Edge crossover SUV, Ford finds itself short of loyal compact customers it can coax into trading up. Tom Libby, senior director of analysis at Power Information Network (MHP ), says having compelling cars priced under $20,000 is crucial because "those buyers overwhelmingly trade up within the same brand."

Ford has belatedly learned its lesson and is now playing catch-up. Come 2008, says product development chief Derrick Kuzak, Ford will have a "portfolio" of subcompacts in the U.S. as it does in Europe. Kuzak is coy on specifics, but people with knowledge of Ford's plans say the lineup will include a five-door sedan and a small SUV the company may call the Bronco. A third subcompact is being debated, too. Says Kuzak: "This market is being driven by fuel economy and demographics," namely the 57 million Gen Yers for whom Ford has little beyond the Focus and Mustang to offer. What will the new cars look like? "Sleek and sporty," Kuzak says, "but not quirky."

Ford insiders say the new trio will be built in Mexico, where labor costs are lower and where the auto maker is already building the Fusion, Lincoln Zephyr, and Mercury Milan. The new cars will arrive five years after Toyota Motor Corp. (TM ) launched the Scion brand to go after the same market and three years after Chrysler (DCX ) knocked out three new models to beat up on the Focus. Ford is hoping late is better than never.
flip240 is offline   Reply With Quote

 
Old 06-10-2006, 10:42 AM   #2
kein Dummkopf
 
flip240's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Chicagoland
Posts: 10,848
Send a message via AIM to flip240
Good news and bad news I guess... Maybe now we can get the super hatchback Focus who's chassis has proven to be more rigid in WRC as well as a more powerful engine. Too bad Ford has to suffer for the mistakes made by the morons running it...
__________________
- Phil - |
flip240 is offline   Reply With Quote

 
Old 06-10-2006, 11:15 AM   #3
It's my ILLUSION!
 
crazuM3's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: The Winchester
Posts: 8,761
we still won't get the ST. ford's too gay for that.
__________________
crazuM3 is offline   Reply With Quote

 
Old 06-10-2006, 01:25 PM   #4
Hellboy's Stunt Double
 
tallok's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Land of the Rising Sun
Posts: 3,484
Quote:
Originally Posted by crazuM3
ford's too gay for that.
Always have been, always will be.
__________________
!Thunder from Down Under!
tallok is offline   Reply With Quote

 
Old 06-10-2006, 03:12 PM   #5
It's my ILLUSION!
 
crazuM3's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: The Winchester
Posts: 8,761
the focus ST is actually a really cool car. i'd rock one, given the choice. i'm sure it'd be very affordable too. they could probably get the ST to compete with subaru imprezas, lancers, golfs, and srt-4s. there's definitely a market here for it.
__________________
crazuM3 is offline   Reply With Quote

 
Old 06-10-2006, 03:37 PM   #6
kein Dummkopf
 
flip240's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Chicagoland
Posts: 10,848
Send a message via AIM to flip240
The focus has one of the more advanced suspensions/body designs of all those listed. It's already common knowledge how much people enjoy it's control despite the fact that it's fwd. This being it being a newer design, using european racing to advance r&d on it. the other cars like srt4/lancer/impreza haven't been redesigned as heavily as the focus. The golf has had a lot of success in the previous generations, but seems to be a flop in the newest version.
__________________
- Phil - |

Last edited by flip240; 06-10-2006 at 03:56 PM.
flip240 is offline   Reply With Quote

 
Old 06-10-2006, 03:43 PM   #7
It's my ILLUSION!
 
crazuM3's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: The Winchester
Posts: 8,761
Quote:
Originally Posted by flip240
The golf has had a lot of success in the previous generations, but seems to be a flop in the newest version.
isn't that ironic?? with all the hype and redesigning... and its a flop.
well, atleast here anyway. i think i heard it was doing well in europe.
__________________
crazuM3 is offline   Reply With Quote

 
Old 06-10-2006, 03:57 PM   #8
kein Dummkopf
 
flip240's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Chicagoland
Posts: 10,848
Send a message via AIM to flip240
yeah.. i really liked what i saw at the chicago auto show, especially a bigger 2.5 liter turbo in it.. but it does look too overgrown to be sporty, oh well..
__________________
- Phil - |
flip240 is offline   Reply With Quote

 
Old 06-10-2006, 11:34 PM   #9
Going to the darkside.
 
CrazuDC5's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Mt. Prospect
Posts: 929
Send a message via AIM to CrazuDC5
well europe already has the next r32 golf, which to me has always been a sweet car, even though i do own a honda.
CrazuDC5 is offline   Reply With Quote

 
Old 06-11-2006, 12:08 PM   #10
Hellboy's Stunt Double
 
tallok's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Land of the Rising Sun
Posts: 3,484
Quote:
Originally Posted by flip240
yeah.. i really liked what i saw at the chicago auto show, especially a bigger 2.5 liter turbo in it.. but it does look too overgrown to be sporty, oh well..
I liked that one too. I like the way VW makes small cars that are huge when you get in. You set a Jetta next to an Accord and you think that the Accord has more passenger space. You'd also be wrong. You put a GTI next to a Lancer and you'd think the same thing. You'd still be wrong. It doesn't matter how small the car is from VW, the passenger compartment is a very comfortable space. That's majorly important in my book.
__________________
!Thunder from Down Under!
tallok is offline   Reply With Quote

 
Old 06-11-2006, 03:31 PM   #11
Grinding my nose
 
Star_Fire's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: 1/2 Bu-Fu
Posts: 16,860
Send a message via AIM to Star_Fire Send a message via Yahoo to Star_Fire
ok, whos moronic idea was it to bring back the Bronco?!?
__________________
Star_Fire is offline   Reply With Quote

 
Old 06-11-2006, 10:52 PM   #12
Hellboy's Stunt Double
 
tallok's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Land of the Rising Sun
Posts: 3,484
Quote:
Originally Posted by Star_Fire
ok, whos moronic idea was it to bring back the Bronco?!?
Maybe OJ is planning to kill again.

__________________
!Thunder from Down Under!
tallok is offline   Reply With Quote

 
Old 06-24-2006, 10:21 AM   #13
Shagun Wagun Driver
 
MonkeyKarma's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Arlington Hts
Posts: 1,038
Send a message via MSN to MonkeyKarma
I think they should bring back the ZX2. So that way I can find more parts for my car....... :P
MonkeyKarma is offline   Reply With Quote

 
Old 06-24-2006, 11:01 PM   #14
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Chicago
Posts: 11,064
I like my Impreza.
Freddy is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Geneva 2008: Ford's European cabrio comes into Focus CV News General Car Discussion 0 03-05-2008 11:08 AM
Mays: Ford's single global design language will debut in six years CV News General Car Discussion 0 11-13-2007 12:42 AM
J Mays set to overhaul Ford's global design CV News General Car Discussion 0 11-06-2007 11:07 AM
I've got alot of catching up to do RACINGXTC The Lounge 14 12-03-2005 01:20 PM
CRVs catching fire after oil changes??? Jen General Car Discussion 17 09-02-2004 10:39 AM

» Recent Threads
It's been a while...
0 Replies, 4 Views
Anyone have a holiday...
3 Replies, 103 Views
2009 TrackDaze Schedule...
1 Replies, 97 Views
Hello
0 Replies, 41 Views
2009 Track Day Schedule...
7 Replies, 175 Views
Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.0.1

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 11:22 PM.


vBulletin style developed by Transverse Styles

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.2
Copyright ©2000 - 2009, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
SEO by vBSEO 3.2.0 ©2008, Crawlability, Inc.