supplement.

**IdleSnake** · 09-27-2006, 10:46 PM

What's the best supplement to use to build muscle?

AnthonyWRX · 09-27-2006, 10:54 PM

^well thats hard to just narrow it down to just "one". well besides a healthy diet with lots of fish/red meat/chicken/egg whites, i would say protein shakes (2-3 a day) and making sure you are getting your amino acids. Besides that it all depends on what you wanna do

kris · 09-28-2006, 02:40 PM

you're too vague. if you wanna get big and bulky then do some creatine and a testosterone like 17-HD.

StockRustang · 09-29-2006, 06:51 PM

Protein.
i use optimums 100% whey, i take about 6 shakes a day and eat like a pig but i'm kinda bulking now. take in like 20lbs over your weight in protein like if you weigh 180 take in about 200 grams a day along with some good carbs. Pro Complex is a good protein but a bit pricey for what you get. i get a 10lb bag of 100% whey for i think like 50$.

If your lookin for something like Pre-workout wise look at VPX NO-Shotgun, this shit is hands down the best creatine/nitric oxide blend out their IMO. your muscles feel like they are going to explode during your workouts its pretty sick.

For creatine i have found BSN Cellmass to work good, i saw some good size gains and strength gains off of that. other than that all i have used creatine wise is kre-akalyn and celltech which were both decent.

But first off start with your protein, you can get big off of protein and a good diet alone, creatine and anabolic support stuff just kind of speeds everything up.

**rummy** · 10-04-2006, 10:39 AM

Mad cans of tuna.

Leo · 10-04-2006, 04:41 PM

X-Factor/Activate Stack works real well. I'm currently running jungle warfare (1st week) w/ Xfactor. It should be a good combination

kris · 10-04-2006, 04:49 PM

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Mad cans of tuna.

naw, dont want mercury poisoning

**IdleSnake** · 10-04-2006, 06:50 PM

Sorry, I am 5"6 or 5"7 and weigh about 155-160. I don't really want to gain to much weight if I don't need to. I want to get more tone and defined as oppose to getting big and bulky. I need some good workout routines and supplements to help speed up the process.

Leo · 10-05-2006, 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by IdleSnake

Sorry, I am 5"6 or 5"7 and weigh about 155-160. I don't really want to gain to much weight if I don't need to. I want to get more tone and defined as oppose to getting big and bulky. I need some good workout routines and supplements to help speed up the process.

How much experience do you have workout wise? Would you consider yourself an intermediate or a beginner?

I'm having pretty good success with 5x5 programs. I can give you more detail if you want. You will build size and strenght.

If your nutrition is not on point you're going to be wasting money on supplements. Make sure you have a good diet first.

For now I'd stick with basics. Creatine, Multi, Fish Oil.

**IdleSnake** · 10-05-2006, 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Leo

How much experience do you have workout wise? Would you consider yourself an intermediate or a beginner?

I'm having pretty good success with 5x5 programs. I can give you more detail if you want. You will build size and strenght.

If your nutrition is not on point you're going to be wasting money on supplements. Make sure you have a good diet first.

For now I'd stick with basics. Creatine, Multi, Fish Oil.

I'm probably in between beginner and intermediate. Send what you have in mind. The hardest part will be the diet, I just like eating junk food whenever I want. What's your suggestion on a diet?

kris · 10-05-2006, 07:25 PM

ya, can't get ripped with no diet

Leo · 10-05-2006, 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by IdleSnake

I'm probably in between beginner and intermediate. Send what you have in mind. The hardest part will be the diet, I just like eating junk food whenever I want. What's your suggestion on a diet?

http://www.geocities.com/elitemadcow...Linear_5x5.htm <-- great workout program for intermediates.

Diet is 70% of your gains. If you don't have a good diet then you're fighting an uphill battle.

**IdleSnake** · 10-05-2006, 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by kris

ya, can't get ripped with no diet

no shit? I think that's why I asked for suggestions on a good diet.

StockRustang · 10-05-2006, 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by kris

ya, can't get ripped with no diet

i am cut as fuck and i eat like the biggest scumbag.
i just do insane cardio.

and have gotten bigger since i stopped eating clean and started eating dirty.

Blackie · 10-05-2006, 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by StockRustang

i am cut as fuck and i eat like the biggest scumbag.
i just do insane cardio.

and have gotten bigger since i stopped eating clean and started eating dirty.

my friend eats TONS and hes the same way......

he always tells me, young, please let me take u for a month and work out with me ....... i can get u big ! ........ and i tell him of course, im too lazy.....

i told him about creatiene and how it didnt work for me...... he told me drinks dont work, he has some supplements that it works just as good and it doesnt build up water fat like createne does.........
i will ask him what and shit.........

kris · 10-05-2006, 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by StockRustang

i am cut as fuck and i eat like the biggest scumbag.
i just do insane cardio.

and have gotten bigger since i stopped eating clean and started eating dirty.

people's metabolisms are different than others

Leo · 10-05-2006, 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by StockRustang

i am cut as fuck and i eat like the biggest scumbag.
i just do insane cardio.

and have gotten bigger since i stopped eating clean and started eating dirty.

and you'd be bigger and leaner if you ate a lot of clean food.

StockRustang · 10-06-2006, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Leo

and you'd be bigger and leaner if you ate a lot of clean food.

and i really dont have much of a clue on what i should be eating.
before i was just eating chicken and steak and stuff, i know i needed to up my carbs so decided to just eat junk but still take in the protein i need to.

MonkeyKarma · 10-19-2006, 06:10 AM

ance is all you need. an occasional junk food is good unless you want to compete. Do not let your diet ruin your life but also let it guide you. Then again I dunt have a diet.