Thought I'd share... 9 wax test...

lecchilo · 05-21-2007, 04:28 PM

Well I was bored yesterday so I decided to go out and test 10 of my waxes/sealants on my mom's 05 Toyota Corolla. (I actually used 10 waxes/sealants but for some weird reason the before/after shots of Poorboy's EXP didn't come out clear at all... hence the 9 in thread title)

The car has never been detailed or waxed and, as you'll see in the pics, it's in pretty bad shape (I'll detail it in a month or so and post pics again)

Products used were KAIO+SG, KAIO, KSG, Meg's 21, Meg's 26, Optimum Car wax, P21S, NXT, Natty's Blue...

I used m/f towels to put the stuff on and wipe off... all of them were left on for about 10-15 mins to dry. Before applying anything, roof was cleaned with Meg's #34.

I did this just to see how much stuff each of these can hide... I used KAIO just to see if there was a big difference between just waxing vs. cleaning with KAIO then waxing... there was!

Pics...

Test area...

KAIO+KSG before

KAIO+KSG after

KAIO before

KAIO after

KSG before

KSG after

M21 before

M21 after

M26 before

M26 after

Opt Wax before

Opt Wax after

P21S before

P21S after

NXT before

NXT after

Nat. Blue before

Nat. Blue after

I know there are many variables here, such as the place where the pic was taken on the area for each LSP, but I did try to use the middle of each area just to have somewhat of a consistency...

I rated them like this... not according to only the photos above, but what I saw in person...

1. KAIO+SG
2. KAIO
3. Meg's 21
4. NXT
5. Meg's 26
6-9... KSG, P21S, Natty's and Opt Wax all looked very similar in person and each added a very similar level of gloss to the bad paint... I would say P21S, SG, natty's, then Opt in terms of shine, but it was very minimal.

I concluded that, even if there's no plan to polish/fully detail the paint, a paint cleaner/polish like KAIO is important prior to sealing the paint because, as seen in the pics, it cleans up very small swirls and all of the oxidation/fading that is present.
Also, it appears that Meg's has some nice fillers in their LSPs, which helped hide some of the swirling.

Well, hope this helps someone... like I said, I was bored and decided to see how different LSPs behaved on a badly conditioned 05 Corolla... no hard facts here, just observation...

fretburnr · 05-21-2007, 04:47 PM

very cool man.

i have to say the meg's #21 on my car did a great job, but after a week (when i added NXT) it was still very much protecting but didn't feel as nice to the touch. layering NXT on top of clean paint and #21 has proved to be super nice for the last month or two. I'm going to add some more NXT before this weekend.

Star_Fire · 05-21-2007, 07:40 PM

wish i had something worth waxing......

Freddy · 05-22-2007, 12:21 AM

That's pretty interesting. I have been using some Meguiars wax and it worked pretty well! I thought it only lasted a good 1-2 months too.

How do you feel about some other talked waxes such as: mothers, shit I can't remember about the others, but you know.. lol

lecchilo · 05-22-2007, 01:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Freddy

That's pretty interesting. I have been using some Meguiars wax and it worked pretty well! I thought it only lasted a good 1-2 months too.

How do you feel about some other talked waxes such as: mothers, shit I can't remember about the others, but you know.. lol

The waxes/sealants mentioned above are the ones I use and feel they give me great results. I haven't used Mother's wax so can't comment on that...

Turk · 05-22-2007, 09:18 AM

I use mothers and I love it! In my opinion, its the easiest to apply and remove, gets rid of the most scratches, even more than scratch X and 3M scratch remover, and leaves my car with a deep dark shine. Give it a try.

Freddy · 05-22-2007, 11:15 AM

Zaino.. that's another one that I hear all sorts of fuzzy comments about

lecchilo · 05-22-2007, 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Turk

I use mothers and I love it! In my opinion, its the easiest to apply and remove, gets rid of the most scratches, even more than scratch X and 3M scratch remover, and leaves my car with a deep dark shine. Give it a try.

What do you mean by "mother's"? wax? polish?

There's no way in hell, or heaven, especially earth, that mother's wax will remove most scratches, especially not more than scratch x and 3m scratch remover... the latter 2 are meant to level the paint and get rid of scratches, while the wax might only hide them very well... after you apply the mother's stuff, buy claybar, tape off a square on your hood, and clay that square... then compare it to the rest of the hood...

again, I'm assuming you're talking about a wax, not a polish, since you said easy to apply and remove

lecchilo · 05-22-2007, 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Freddy

Zaino.. that's another one that I hear all sorts of fuzzy comments about

The zaino phenomenon seems to be toning down a bit lately... they have good stuff but it seems like they're marketing everything to be sold together, and most of the stuff is pretty $$$ compared to other stuff on the market that's just as good.
I've never tried it so I can't give an honest opinion, but comparing my own detail work, using Meguiar's, to a friend's who used Zaino, there's isn't much of a difference

Turk · 05-22-2007, 07:21 PM

I am talking about mothers carnuba wax. Although it may not actually remove scratches, it hides them well enough for me. Not a fan of polishing the car unless I have a buffer.

Quote:

Originally Posted by lecchilo

What do you mean by "mother's"? wax? polish?

There's no way in hell, or heaven, especially earth, that mother's wax will remove most scratches, especially not more than scratch x and 3m scratch remover... the latter 2 are meant to level the paint and get rid of scratches, while the wax might only hide them very well... after you apply the mother's stuff, buy claybar, tape off a square on your hood, and clay that square... then compare it to the rest of the hood...

again, I'm assuming you're talking about a wax, not a polish, since you said easy to apply and remove

kris · 05-22-2007, 09:08 PM

good review, helps me decide wat wax i need to buy this week

Wild Country · 05-25-2007, 12:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Star_Fire

wish i had something worth waxing......

Girlfriend?

randyvettes · 06-01-2007, 11:25 PM

Big fan of Meg's 26 for a long time. It does seem to need frequent repeating but I like to detail often anyway. FWIW.

Darkstars · 10-01-2007, 05:38 PM

I've always been a fan of Mothers.

-Hand wash
-Mothers California Gold Clay bar
-Mothers California Gold Cleaner wax
-Mothers California Gold Scratch remover
-Mothers California Gold Stage 1
-Mothers California Gold Stage 2
-Mothers California Gold Stage 3

end result.... real shiney

FastTrac · 11-11-2008, 12:47 PM

I use the Mothers Carnuba Wax, I have steps 1 and 3 I think, although don't quote me on that. Its been a few months since I've used it. But on my black car- it works awesome, and smells wonderful! I do live on gravel but going down the road as slow as possible all I have to do is take out a duster and the dust practically falls off. Even after a few months; I just put my car in the garage for winter.... the rain still ran right off of it. Also rainx glass sealant/ whatever that tiny yellow bottle is... I recommend that- only bad thing is I haven't figured out how to get it all worked in before it gets hazy and my arm starts hurting.